The Business of Poetry

I wasn’t sure what to title this post because all my note said was: indecision about AWP, contests etc. What exactly did I want to get at with this post?

Well, first off – I’m not going to AWP in February. I had really hoped that I could swing it but, at the very least, it will cost close to $1000. I love the conference in all it’s overwhelming glory but I want to get a better hold on my finances as I move into 2011 so that was the biggest factor in me deciding not to attend. But, what do you get if you do attend? If your publisher is there you get exposure to a lot of readers via the publisher’s table. There are scores of brilliant readings (all genres), panels and key note speakers. And, there is the meeting up with people you only know online to totally geek out about poetry and writing. That’s the part I’ll miss the most. But, maybe I can save up for 2012 when it is back in Chicago…

But what does my indecision about whether or not to go to AWP have to do with contests and etc?

It is the whole business end of poetry that I’m speaking about. I’ve touched on it from time to time but it still makes me a bit squeamish. Sometimes I just want to write but I also want a career as a teacher and I like sending my work out to be published so I’ve joined the business end of poetry (or you could just say writing in general). But why should writers be made to feel so guilty or ashamed of being aware and/or of knowingly participating in the business end of things? Why do so many people see a writer acknowledging the need for marketing etc as a bad thing?

And the other little tidbit I mentioned: contests. I’m not opposed to them even though I don’t enter many. I am sending my chapbook to contests, due in part, to my hope to (heaven forbid) win one and not so much for any amount of prize money but because this would be a way for me to find readers outside of NC and my blog (which are where my primary readers seem to be). I don’t know how long I’ll keep sending the chapbook to contests though before I say enough! Self-publish.

Just a few random thoughts to start my day. Now back to reading some reading journal/in class essays from my class and the classes I’m still subbing for this week. Or breakfast…definitely breakfast…

Love to hear your thoughts about anything I babbled about above! Keep on having a great week :)

Monday Shout Outs

Sorry I haven’t blogged since Thursday, but I worked and then ran errands on Friday then traveled out of town on Saturday so by Sunday it was avoid most of the computer, people and basically anything but the TV.

  • What would Monday be without a good story from PANK?
  • In completely unrelated news did you know you can get a copy of my book, Paper House, now in PDF?
  • Lots of good stuff is posted at Everyday Fiction. This article is a good one about setting goals.
  • Then Mel Bosworth and I interview each other over at Daily S Press.  Mel totally has a novella out!
  • And then there is the essay Six Days: on learning a new alphabet which I assigned this week to my class.

Almost 9pm before I am finally getting a chance to post this. Really have a lot to catch up which I could probably do tomorrow but I also like the possibility of sleeping in on one of the only days I get a chance to do that :)

Hope everyone had an excellent Monday and that you are looking forward to the week. I’ll be filling out my first time card, subbing again for two classes and taking my students through pre-writing for their first paper due on 9-8-10.

At least I found some clearance shirts and pants today – even Jessie sized!

Thursday Poem Share

Here I am, slowly getting to Thursday poem share. I am a bit busy with the teaching gig and the subbing in for another teacher but also just with life in general, like cutting yourself while opening a can and ending up in the ER for 4 hours while they give you the first stitches of your life which don’t hurt but the application of the local anesthetic did…

This week I finished re-reading Atlantis by Mark Doty. I’m such a fan of Mark Doty and this book is still my favorite, although I have yet to read quite a few of his other books or his memoirs. Even as much as I love the book, I was still in a bit of doldrums on my own poetry writing. I think i finally squeaked out a poem last night in my notebook but nothing ready to type up and not sure it is a keeper.

I read a good how-to/discussion of haibun which is a Japanese form that combines prose and haiku.

I started reading a new online journal Word Riot so I thought I’d share a poem from it.

Since I haven’t been typing up much of my own work (or making much of it) this week, I thought I’d share a poem that was recently rejected to see if you guys have any thoughts on how I can improve it before I submit it to another publication.

–great comments on this one guys! ready to start editing :) -

As always, feel free to post your own poems in comments for discussion or links to poems you have been reading etc. This is just a day to talk about poetry. To revel in it.  To sound your Barbaric Yawp of it (seriously, an AWESOME yawp project has just been launched!)

And to feel honored by making a best sellers list. Still can’t quite get over that but, as always happens, with good news there is always something to remind you to be humble. I found out (both about the best seller and this next news on Facebook) that my stepmother (who I am not currently close to) had a stroke. She is recovering and will have therapy.  I’m glad that she has my father (who I am also not close to) and her mother and siblings to be there for her as the rest of us live over 5 hours away. Take care, Bonnie. No matter what history there is we are thinking about you and I’m sure many of my readers will be sending thoughts and prayers your way.

Now the decision if I call again? Last time when she was sick I called and no one took my call or called me back *sigh* I am not perfect in this situation either but it makes me sad but also thankful for the family I have built out of my friends, siblings and in-laws. Thank you all.

A Numbers Game

I’ve posted before about how many of my submission packets, per year, are accepted. I report this by percentage. Readers, however, have asked me about whether or not I submit and/or accepted by more online vs print so I thought it’d be fun to look at some of those numbers.

  • Number of print journals I submitted to: 80. Now this is actually somewhat of an approximation because as I scrolled through my list I was having a hard time remembering whether or not some of the journals were print or online. Journals that have print and online were counted as print.
  • Number of online journals I submitted to: 40. As above, not sure if that is completely accurate given what I mentioned above and I didn’t include any contests or anthologies I sent to which was limited.

So that is a rough idea of number of submission packets I sent out. Looks like roughly 70% went to print journals and 30% to online. I thought I was doing closer to 50/50 so that is interesting to see where my preferences still seem to lie.

Now what was my acceptance rate like for print over online?

  • Online: 13
  • Print: 5

Although these numbers might be a little off as well because I note 20 acceptances for 2009 but, I’m tired (long story) and these numbers still give you an idea of what I am driving at. Which is what exactly you ask?

I submit more to print journals but my acceptance rate is much lower. 6% of the time that I submit to a print journal, I am accepted whereas when I submit to fewer online journals my  success rate is 33% for every set of poems I send.

What should I do with this? Well, for this year, not much because I’m just submitting when I have time but I want to have a better game play for 2011 when I make my new “where to sub” list.  Should I be focusing more on online journals, especially the ones I really admire (see side bar I’m reading A LOT more online work)? Should I rethink the number of print journals I am submitting to?

I’m not sure but one idea I have is to only submit to print journals that I have actually read. And by read, I mean, I have read at least a poem of theirs in Best American Poetry, on their website or in their print publication. I submit to some of the larger university presses each year even though I haven’t read them. That might be an extra challenge for myself as I move into a new submission mode next year, to use the fact that I read a lot to corner me into submitting to only those places I read regularly or have at least read in brief.

What do you guys think? Do you think my plan sounds doable or like a good idea? Or do you want to give me a new plan? What are your strategies for sending your work out if you do so? How do you decide where your work goes? Does the prestige of the publication (whether print or online) matter?

Food for thought.

Speaking of food. Can I haz some?

Write Quick – An Author Interview

I recently had the opportunity to read “Write Quick: War and a Woman’s Life in Letters, 1835-1867″ which was edited by Ann Fox Chandonnet and Robert Gibson Pevear. What follows is an interview between Ann and I about the process of creating this book.

Q: How did you become involved with Write Quick?

A: My third cousin, Bobbi Pevear, wrote to me 25 years ago about some questions she had regarding our shared ancestors. I couldn’t answer her questions, and she couldn’t answer mine (about Gustavus Vasa Fox, assistant secretary of the Navy under Lincoln). However, four years ago, Bobbi got in touch to say she had completed her genealogical research. She sent me a huge binder of documents, including period photos I had never seen before of my great grandmother. It was then I learned Bobbi’s mother had saved more than a hundred letters written by folks perched in our family tree. As I read the letters, I realized they would make a wonderful book–and volunteered to work on one, sharing all credit and potential income equally. The title and the emphasis on a woman, Eliza Bean Foster, were my ideas.

Q: At 538 pages Write Quick is a robust collection of letters, diaries and commentary with family trees, photography and helpful indexes and appendixes included. I’d love to hear some about the process you went through in putting together the book especially how you start narrowing down what must have been an extensive collection of reference material.

A: Because my unique sources included everything from rent receipts to tallies of funeral expenses, I first began reading other collections of Civil War letters to see how their authors/editors organized available material. After this research, I came up with the plan to begin the book with three biographies, followed by the letters.However, our publisher decided that the letters should be rearranged chronologically, regardless of writer. After I’d done that, she decided I needed to integrate Eliza’s 1863 diary into the mix. These changes took many, many hours. Late in the process, Bobbi discovered she had Andrew Bean’s 1869 ledger, and we learned we could acquire copies of Clarke Edwards’ letters (stored in Texas). These new documents required more revisions–but also added some important facts and figures.

Q: Besides working with Bobbi, your publisher and the physical texts were there other people, places or media that you utilized when putting together the book?

A: In 2007, I made a research trip to New England to visit the Lowell History Center (Massachusetts) and the Bethel Historical Society (Maine). In 2009, I made a trip to Gettysburg, Antietam and Winchester (Virginia). Although all my “characters” are Yankees, I wanted to see if the experiences they recorded in their letters jived with the experience of Southerners. So I also queried the Louisiana State Museum, the Virginia Historical Society, the Maine Historical Society, Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University, Rice University and other libraries/Civil War collections for unpublished sources. At least half a dozen times after doing research at BHS, I queried the director via email for specific help. I also was in touch with genealogists in Dracut and Lowell (Massachusetts). Most people were very helpful.

Q: As someone who has lived her whole life in the South, I have always been curious about how different parts of the world view the South and the Civil War. I think I had always hoped most of the North were anti-slavery but it seemed from the letters that the war, from the view point of the average solider, was more about preserving the union. I’d love to hear more about what you took away from the experience of studying the Civil War from the side of the “Yankee’”?

A: I come from a family of Massachusetts Republicans/bigots who were upset when I married a French-Canadian Catholic. They wouldn’t have been thrilled with an Irishman or a man of Greek extraction, either.  Nor were theyt happy when I registered as a Democrat. And that is only the beginning of my sins in their eyes.

My grandmother’s foster father fought in the Civil War (in a New Hampshire unit), and we had his jacket, etc., up in the attic. I never heard his attitude about either slavery or the union described, but, you’re right: the evidence I’ve found is that Yankee soldiers were more interested in preserving the union than in cancelling the practice of slavery. However, the issue of slavery was tied up with territories that wanted to join the union as new states, so it is hard to pry the two apart politically.

I spent half my life in Alaska, where the Civil War is not a hot topic, but racism against Native Americans continues.

As a writer, I tried to make this a “family story” rather than a story of Rebels and Yanks and patriotic battles. Family is universal to those fortunate enough to have grown up in a loving home.

Q: Looking back over your writing career, how do you feel about this latest addition?

A: In my teens, I declared myself a poet. Through thick and thin, I have stuck to that. Because of a surplus of English teachers, I had to work in banks, freelance and eventually go into journalism for 13 years. I feel most comfortable attacking writing projects (poetry or prose) that appeal to me–not necessarily projects that might bring a big monetary return, render shock value or fit some trend-or-other.

Thanks for taking the time to speak with us Ann!
Ann also has tour dates for this book across New England but will also be holding one in NC: 4 p.m., Sunday, October 17, Community Arts Cafe, 411 W. 4th Street, Winston-Salem; in the auditorium on the lower floor.

For more details on the book. Please visit the publishers site.

Author Bio: Ann Chandonnet is a magna cum laude graduate of Lowell State College (now Lowell University), majoring in English and minoring in history. Her master’s degree is from the University of Wisconsin (Madison). She lived and worked in Alaska for 34 years, where she was adjunct faculty for the University of Alaska Anchorage and worked as a newspaper reporter. She and her husband retired to Vale three and a half years ago.

Monday Shout Outs

3:30 on a Monday afternoon and I’m finally back at home and catching up on the internet. Busy day today where I taught my regular class at 9am on “Rhetorical Situations” then I tried to shape the same lesson for the 10am and noon classes for which I was filling in/subbing. I think it went okay.

Those of you who are following along here is the essay that was assigned this week.

  • Saying ‘I Do’ en bleu
  • This was not assigned in class but I recently finished Kay Ryan’s poetry collection The Best of It. I really like Ryan’s newer work but I find her older work filled with a little too much rhyme for me but this is a very interesting collection. I think of Kay Ryan as a modern day Emily Dickinson who used to be our national poet laureate.  Here are the opening lines to her poem “The Edges of Time”: It is at the edges / that time thins. / Time which had been dense and viscous / “
  • One of our fellow blog readers told me about this online reading program where you can mentor elementary school kids via web. Sounds like a neat project. Do I have the time to participate?
  • I was very pleased to be the featured poet in the current issue of Untitled Country Review. The link contains an interview between myself and editor Scot Siegel as well as selected poems from Paper House.
  • There are two writer events in the Charlotte area this week (that I know of). One is a reading at Gianni’s Italian Restaurant in Concord, NC. 7:30 by authors who have appeared and who have worked with the prose journal Moonshine Review.  The other is the Green Rice Art Gallery Open Mike at 7pm on Friday.

Still lots of work to do this week, in the class room and in my own writing and housewife like life. Although can I even classify as a housewife now? Interesting.

I should have an author interview up for you tomorrow and then possibly a final look back at publishing/submitting work from 2009 with some numbers a few of you dear readers as me about. Sound confusing and mysterious? Well, my brain is a bit fuddled at this point :)

Have a great week!

Friday Wrap-Up

Whew! What a week! First up are my submission counts for the week.

  • Submitted: 2 – 1 set of poems that was solicited by an online journal and an essay to a print journal.
  • Accepted: 0
  • Rejected: 4 – 2 sets of poems, one with “ink” (I think), a story with comments and one of these doesn’t really count because the rejection is 8 months after I submitted so I had already pulled it as “assumed declined”

I managed to type up a poem from my notebook and I posted one on Thursday that was new this week as well. I also started on an essay topic, but I am still trying to find how to balance my new schedule.

I did find out I was accepted into the NC Writer’s Conference which I had been invited to back in July. Yay!

My first full week of teaching went pretty well although I was kind of running out of steam this morning so my class was short as was the class I was filling in for. I at least found one of the textbooks for the class I am filling in for so that on Monday I can be a bit more prepared for the two sections this particular teacher has.

On the weight loss front I am down .9 pounds which is almost all of the 1.3 that I went up last week. I’m not freaking out about this (especially since hubby and I went out to eat last night late for kind of a heavy dinner that was still within the ww flexpoints), but I would like to see myself moving back down instead of yo-yo’ing. I’m trying to always take the stairs when I’m on campus so maybe that will help. Did I mention my feet are killing me? :)

To finish up my crazy week I substituted for a teacher who is out who is teaching the same subject but with a completely different set of textbooks and different syllabus. It was a short class but I am on tap to cover both of her Eng 111 sections Monday so I have some time to prepare.

Speaking of time, what happened to it?

Have a great weekend everyone! See you back around next week with an author interview and perhaps a day of some writing tips besides our regular weekly posts. I’m always taking post suggestions so just let me know.